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From: "Robert B. Waltz" 
Subject: Re: Differences in MSS Re: 1 John 5:7
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On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, REElliott@aol.com wrote:

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>1)  Why aren=EDt MSS 629 and 635 also listed in the second edition; was=
 there a
>typographical error
>that transposed 629 to 429, and 635 to 636?
>2)  Why and how does the dating for MSS 61 and 88 change (and possibly 629,
>429, 635,& 636).

Since I don;t have all the editions of Metzger, I can't comment
in full. But I can speak of some of these manuscripts.

629, a Greek-Latin diglot, contains *part* of the comma, presumably
derived from its late Vulgate parallel.

The dating for 61 did not change; the fact is, 61 is the manuscript used
to force Erasmus to include the comma in his text. Therefore it
dated before Erasmus's 3rd edition. Hence it *must* be early XVI (or
earlier, but of course the evidence is that it was written just to
confute Erasmus).

I don't believe the dating for 88 has changed; the dating applies to
the comma only, which is inserted in 88 in a late hand. Since the
insertion is short, it is probably hard to date it exactly.

635, according to Richards, does not contain the comma.

429 and 636, according to NA27, contain the comma in the margin.
Nestle lists a few other mss. with the reading.

I suspect that some of the confusion relates to the conversion of
Tischendorf and von Soden numbers to Gregory numbers. You should
check those editions against a Gregory conversion table.

I hope this helps somewhat.

Bob Waltz
waltzmn@skypoint.com

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