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Robert B. Waltz wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Jack Kilmon  wrote:
> 

> >       I, for one, am not convinced that the common ancestor of the
> >Gospels lie strictly in oral tradition.
> 
> I doubt that there are many who would say this. All information in
> the gospels ultimately goes back to oral tradition (or memory), but
> that is *not* the same thing. There seem to have been at least
> two written sources -- Mark and Q. In addition, Matthew and Luke
> probably had their own written sources.
> 
> In fact, I once proposed to Ulrich Schmidt (based on the "folkloric"
> styles of some of the material in Matthew and Luke) that the two
> gospels had at least *six* sources -- Mark, Q1 (parallel to the
> Gospel of Thomas), Q2 (Q material not in Thomas), M1, L1, and L2.
> Some were written (Mark), some oral (Q1, L2), and some I'm not
> sure about.

	I have arrived at the same conclusions with reservations
that "proto-Mark" was the text that resulted in Canonical Mark.
I think that GThom1 and Q1 arose from the "Oracles" that may have
been written by the disciple Matthew DURING the ministry of Jesus
and its use by the Syrian author of the Gospel is responsible for
the adoption of the disciple's name for the work.  I am inclined
to hold open the possibility that an Aramaic "proto-John" may have
preceded or been contemporaneous with these earliest sources....
perhaps as early as the 40's CE.

Shelama amkhon
Jack Kilmon
jpman@accesscomm.net

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